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ejp · Mar 17, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Im going to try and get FoW armor and im gonna farm UW/FoW what is the better way of making money w/rt solo or any of the various 2 man builds?

nvmu · Mar 17, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

lol ok this depends on a few things

how lucky are you with drops
if you are going to 2 man are you going to go 50/50
and how skilled are you with solo/duo builds, if not very skilled ursan uw clear would be better way to go

Shiing! · Mar 17, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Either is just as good. Probably the W/Rt build would be faster since the ectos drop for you and only you.

If you're going 2-man, don't settle for any less than 50/50 on the ectos.

Resident · Mar 18, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Of course solo farming is better if you wanna have enough ectos for the fow armor. If you're not experienced enough, go for the Vwk build, much safer!

Joe Fierce · Mar 18, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Resident

Of course solo farming is better if you wanna have enough ectos for the fow armor. If you're not experienced enough, go for the Vwk build, much safer!

i'd have to agree, but if you are more experienced in uw i highly suggest a build that can kill the aataxes as well as everything else as they have the highest ecto drop rate in uw, or at least thats what i've been led to believe, fact is though my runs kinda prove this to me because when i can do a 30 min chamber to smite run and i get on the upsides (max) of 6 ectos in nm and more than half of them have dropped from the pissed off hell cows, that says something... also a minor side note, the aataxes seem to drop ecto less when you two man so, as resident said if you can, solo is tha way!

Bull Dogg · Mar 18, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

I have seen videos of people going 600/smite in UW and he had 2 accounts so if you can do that dualing ftw

Resident · Mar 18, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

i'd have to agree, but if you are more experienced in uw i highly suggest a build that can kill the aataxes as well as everything else as they have the highest ecto drop rate in uw, or at least thats what i've been led to believe, fact is though my runs kinda prove this to me because when i can do a 30 min chamber to smite run and i get on the upsides (max) of 6 ectos in nm and more than half of them have dropped from the pissed off hell cows, that says something... also a minor side note, the aataxes seem to drop ecto less when you two man so, as resident said if you can, solo is tha way!

What build do you use mate? I usually run to the chaos planes and farm there, average 6 ectos/run with Donut Tzar's build. I think he is new to this thats why i suggested the Vwk build.

Mr.Kotte · Mar 18, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Resident

What build do you use mate? I usually run to the chaos planes and farm there, average 6 ectos/run with Donut Tzar's build. I think he is new to this thats why i suggested the Vwk build.

Donat Tzar's build have been the most paying build for me so far. As it nets me up to 13 ectos a run (about 70-90 minutes depending on smite spawn), although, its very tricky in the beginning.

robot of chaos · Mar 18, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Donat Tzar's build have been the most paying build for me so far. As it nets me up to 13 ectos a run (about 70-90 minutes depending on smite spawn), although, its very tricky in the beginning.

could you plz post a link to this build
ty

Mr.Kotte · Mar 18, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by robot of chaos

could you plz post a link to this build
ty

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10260621
Credits goes to Donut Tzar (we kidnapped him, yay)

gw_poster · Mar 18, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

QUOTE: Everyone above who talks about >6 ectos per run in UW!!?

Wow, I wish I had 1/2 that luck...In 15 min, I clear the chamber and get to the smites duo'ing 600/smite (with Dunk)...I average 1 ecto every 2 runs!! An additional 30 minutes of clearing the ice wastes of all smites/coldfires, I might get lucky with a chest or an additional ecto...In fact, of all my runs, I've gotten a best of 3 ectos. U guys are simply amazing!

My Lipgloss is Cool · Mar 18, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Dunk eats half your ectos, so there's your first problem

But yeah...Still sounds like a bad streak to me

MLiC

Mr.Kotte · Mar 18, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by gw_poster

QUOTE: Everyone above who talks about >6 ectos per run in UW!!?

We solo alot more then just the Ice Wastes + Chamber.
Click the link and read the guide, its really awesome.

gw_poster · Mar 18, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

Dunk eats half your ectos, so there's your first problem

But yeah...Still sounds like a bad streak to me

MLiC

oh yeah, Dunk...that bald bastard has been stealing my ectos! I read the link, sounds great, too - if I only had an ele... qq

teotuf · Mar 18, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

Dunk eats half your ectos, so there's your first problem

But yeah...Still sounds like a bad streak to me

MLiC

this needs to stop... i really cannot understand why people have this misconception.

you are always killing both AATXES and SMITES in a duo, so the total number of ectos that the team gets is about doubled compared to a smite only solo run, which since ur dividing that by 2, you still get the same amount of ecto as soloing per run...

gw_poster · Mar 18, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by teotuf

this needs to stop... i really cannot understand why people have this misconception.

you are always killing both AATXES and SMITES in a duo, so the total number of ectos that the team gets is about doubled compared to a smite only solo run, which since ur dividing that by 2, you still get the same amount of ecto as soloing per run...

Oh? So Dunk isn't eating 1/2 my ectos?? Oops, sorry Dunk - you're not a bald bastard, well - bald, but not a bastard...

Thanks for the enlightenment, now I don't feel so bad, but I'm still getting way gyped compared to what the others claim to be getting in ecto drops - even with only doing 2 of their 4 areas!

Scarn · Mar 18, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Not meaning to brag, but I believe my run has the best solo payout of any UW build. Once you understand the route, and master the basics of the build, it is quite simple. As Kotte said, it is not unreasonable to obtain between 8-15 ectos in a single run.

My Lipgloss is Cool · Mar 18, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by teotuf

this needs to stop... i really cannot understand why people have this misconception.

you are always killing both AATXES and SMITES in a duo, so the total number of ectos that the team gets is about doubled compared to a smite only solo run, which since ur dividing that by 2, you still get the same amount of ecto as soloing per run...

That would be true if...you know...There were nearly as many aatxes as there were smites.

Also, there ARE solo builds that can kill aatxes + smites (N/Mo 55 SV anyone?)

If you're just clearing the chamber + killing smites, you'll kill ~16 aatxes (Including the ones in the Terrorweb's room)...Unless you plan to argue that there are only ~16 smites, then your point is wrong. If you DO argue that there are only ~16 smites, then you're wrong anyways.

MLiC

teotuf · Mar 18, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

That would be true if...you know...There were nearly as many aatxes as there were smites.

Also, there ARE solo builds that can kill aatxes + smites (N/Mo 55 SV anyone?)

If you're just clearing the chamber + killing smites, you'll kill ~16 aatxes (Including the ones in the Terrorweb's room)...Unless you plan to argue that there are only ~16 smites, then your point is wrong. If you DO argue that there are only ~16 smites, then you're wrong anyways.

MLiC

you are assuming that they have the same droprate for ectos... however, that's not true. about 1 in every 15 aatxes drop an ecto, about 1 in every 40 smites drop an ecto. someone tested the drop rates of smites and aatxes before, in a duo run aatxe drop 52% of the ectos or soemthing, and smites 48%

as for solo builds that can do both... i'm sorry, i just don't think any of the solo ones you can find on pvxwiki or here are profit... challenge and fun? sure, farming for profit? waaaaayyy too slow

out of the solo UW builds that are shown here or on pvxbuilds, i'd say that the donut tzar's is the most profitable one.

ejp · Mar 18, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

ok i just need to get my ele ascended and figure out the route to chaos plains